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dit dit dit dit,dit dit, dit dahdit dah dit dit, dit dah dit dit, dit dit dit dit, dit dah dah, dit dah dit dit dit dah dit dit dah dah dit dit?
Oh, don't understand morse code? look it up, lol.
wonderwoman
lol that was awesome! JAWS sounds cool when it reads that. lol
I hate to be a pedant, but I wasn't aware that morse code was designed to be a spoken language.
If u put the commas in the right places, it might work. With a comma after each character, here is what u really sent, h i then something that isn't a character, l, h, w, and a whole bunch of jibberish. please poste it properly and I will decode the message even though morse code does not count as a spoken language. U have to get the original syntax correct in order to do any sort of translation. dah dit dit dit, dah dit dah dah, dit dit dah dit, dah dah dah, dit dah dit, dah dit, dah dah dah, dit dah dah. Believe it or not, all that meant was good bye for now.
thanks kc, I'm always open to constructive criticism, and although it is not a language that can be spoken, it is a language nontheless, people communicate with it in amateur radio, and it use to be a main communication on ships, to ensure that the messages got through. It was just the first time I've ever tried to write it out, but I will keep working on it. But, any language that can be used as a communication tool is a language, i.e, sign language is not a spoken language either, it is never the less a language of communication.
wonderwoman
You are quite right Wonderwoman. In that case, the topic title should have been 'can you write morse code?' or 'Do you know Morse code?' or 'can you communicate in Morse code?' but none of those are the title, are they? What is the title? it's 'Can you speak morse code' isn't it? so my comments were directed more to the title of the topic than the substantive claim that morse code is a language, weren't they? Thank you, My Lord, I have no further questions.
Add to that the fact that we're not on a ship or a submarine or in the desert, or spies, or embassy staff, and I think we're beyond the morse code pale here.
ok, I stand corrected your honor, I suppose I should've used another word instead of speak, so I will do so now, can you write, or understand morse code? I rest my case your honor.
wonderwoman
This I know WW, since I have been using it for 4 years now. It's been a couple of months, but the last QSO I had was at 35WPM on 30 meters. 30 is my favorite band! But LL, to my knowledge, embasy staff, spies, etc no longer use Morse Code as a means of comunication. Morse Code is now viewed as a primative mode of comunication and not too many people use it anymore. It's too bad, since this is a very efficient and low maintaince means of comunication, but I could go on and on about that and it would most likely be a rambling that no one would want to read.
well to be honest kc8, I haven't used morse code in years, so I'd probably be rusty at it if I tried a qso. I never actually liked cw, too slow, and everyone's voice was the same, lol. But I remember the basic way to form the letters. I'm not sure how high my speed actually got up to, but I just did squeak by the 20 wpm per minute code for my extra class.
wonderwoman
Wouldn't it be easier if you wrote: - . . . , - . - - , . . - . , - - - , . - . , - . , - - - , . - - ? Instead of "dah dit dit dit, dah dit dah dah, dit dit dah dit, dah dah dah, dit dah dit, dah dit, dah dah dah, dit dah dah" it takes less characters and space. For those who want to learn it: a = . - , b = - . . . , c = - . - . , d = - . . , e = . , f = . . - . , g = - - , h = . . . . , i = . . , j = . - - - , k = - . - , l = . - . . , m = - - , n = - . , o = - - - , p = . - - . , q = - - . - , r = . - . , s = . . . , t = - , u = . . - , v = . . . - , w = . - - , x = - . . - , y = - . - - , z = - - . . , 0 = - - - - - , 1 = . - - - - , 2 = . . - - - , 3 = . . . - - , 4 = . . . . - , 5 = . . . . . , 6 = - . . . . , 7 = - - . . . , 8 = - - - . . , 9 = - - - - . , fullstop = . - . - . - , comma = - - . . - - , I hope you will enjoy learning it! It's a cool way to exchange messages in class without others knowing what you say! Star or . . . , - , . - , . - .
thanks star, I realized it was reading the -'s, but not the ., because I have my punctuation on most instead of all, but I will try that.
wonderwoman
Hi all,
I had a hard time "copying" Wonder Woman's Morse message. I find it difficult to process Morse as written 'dits' and 'dahs'. As tones (the way I learned and still use it), no troubles at rates as high as 40 words per minute (on a good day). KC8PNL: the mode is considered "primative", but is reliable and simple. I'd say the 40 and 30 meter bands are my faves.
-Dave
I hate to quibble, Star, but it should be fewer characters rather than less characters. KC you're quite right of course, no spy or embassy staff would use morse code nowadays, but I could think of no better example at the time.
Hi dave, sorry you had trouble deciphering it, it prooved to be harder than I thought it was going to be. I had never tried to write it before, and it did indeed turn out to be a bit of a challenge. It may be impossible to write it in a way in which it would work well. Oh well, back to the drawing board, hahaha.
wonderwoman
You know lawlord, if you would spend FEWER time nit picking what I write and how I write it maybe you would be wasting much LESS of your time and instead doing something useful. So unless you have something to say on morse code alphabet this is what I have to say to you: - - . , - - - , . . . , - . - . , . - . , . , . - , - . - , - - - , . . - , . - . , . . . , . , . - . . , . . - . , Star
-.--, ---, .-.., *. Although a w is .--, still funny.
I'd say, for those of us who converse in orse at wht are considered moderate to high speed, the code really does become like a spoken language in the way it is processed. When listening, I hear whole words, not character groups. This can present a problem when having to slow down for perfect copy, when, for instance, I'm taking down radiogram traffic. I don't write while just chatting on the air.
--Dave wx1g
Speaking of reliable, bindwidth-concerving communications modes, who here has tried PSK-31? It gets through, even where Morse won't; I've seen demonstrations. The encoding/decoding programs, however, use a waterfall-type spectrum analyzer display as a tuning aid.
-Dave wx1g
Star honestly don't trouble yourself about how I manage my time. It honestly doesn't take very long to notice such grammatical misdemeanours, nor does it take any substantial amount of time to point them out. So it's no trouble, I assure you.
Hi dave,
No I've never tried spk, and you're right about copying code as words, that's what I had to learn to do when I first started as a novice. It took several months before I could do it well, and now that I haven't done it in several years, if I were to try a qso now, I'm sure my speed would be back down to 5 wpm, if even that.
wonderwoman
Wonder Woman: If you once had speed above 20 WPM or so, it would soon come right back, once you started.
Hi Dave, it probably would, but I don't even have any radios hooked up anymore. The last time I had my hf rig hooked up, it wouldn't work, and it is or would be 15 years old now. I pretty much lost in it when I got on the internet, after all, you can do a lot with a computer, and amateur radio is too dependent on the weather and other atmospheric conditions. I never was interested in all those, or any of those awards you could get for working so many countries, so many states or continents. I suppose my speed would come back up, but I was frankly glad when I got my general license so I could use voice, and now they have the no code license, or at least the nocode tech license.
wonderwoman
No Dave, I haven't tried psk yet, but what software programs would you recommend?
KC8PNL: I haven't tried any PSK-31 programs. In that demo I witnessed, the one being used had this visual spectrum analyzer thing used for tuning. I suppose one could learn to tune in a PSK signal by ear, as one can with RTTY, however, one of the things folks like to do with PSK is participate in several simultaneous qsos. The sessions tend to be largely automated, once the group of signals is tuned. Wonderwoman: One of the things I enjoy about doing QRP CW work on HF is the sport of it; I. E. discovering what atmospherics and limited resources will let you do on a given day. Field Day is coming up in June; I hope to participate again. I get out my old Vibroplex bug and act all "retro-chique":).
-Dave
field day, yuck! I hated it. I just liked to get on there and rag chew. I did a bit of trafic handling, but sort of got out of it. You never knew what was going to happen when you call a total stranger up, and siad, I'm an amateur radio operator, and I have a radio gram from so and so to so and so. I definitely would hate qrp, I got frustrated enough as it was when I wasn't putting out enough of a signal to be heard. I avoided those contests like the plage. I got back in to code when they'd split the contests up, and they'd have it on voice one weekend, and cw the next weekend, I'd go on the cw frequencies when they had the contest on voice frequencies, but then they started having them on voice and code together on the same weekend, and since I hated contests, I just gave up, and stayed off the air till they were over.
wonderwoman